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๐Ÿ“„ Earnings Call Transcript ๋ฒˆ์—ญ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ

๐Ÿ“Š Presentation

Original Translation
NVIDIA Corporation (NASDAQ:NVDA) Morgan Stanley Technology, Media & Telecom Conference March 5, 2025 3:20 PM ET

Company Participants

Colette Kress - EVP & CFO

Conference Call Participants

Joseph Moore - Morgan Stanley

Joseph Moore

Great. Welcome back, everybody. I'm Joe Moore, Morgan Stanley Semiconductor Research. Very happy to have with us today. Really, the highlight of the conference NVIDIA's CFO, Colette Kress. Thank you so much for being here. I think you want to read a Safe Harbor before we start. Colette Kress

I do.
NVIDIA Corporation (NASDAQ:NVDA) ๋ชจ๊ฑด ์Šคํƒ ๋ฆฌ ๊ธฐ์ˆ , ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด & ํ†ต์‹  ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค 2025๋…„ 3์›” 5์ผ ์˜คํ›„ 3์‹œ 20๋ถ„ ET

์ฐธ์„์ž

Colette Kress - ๋ถ€์‚ฌ์žฅ ๊ฒธ CFO

์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ ์ฐธ์„์ž

Joseph Moore - ๋ชจ๊ฑด ์Šคํƒ ๋ฆฌ

Joseph Moore

์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„. ์ €๋Š” ๋ชจ๊ฑด ์Šคํƒ ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐ˜๋„์ฒด ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜์˜ ์กฐ ๋ฌด์–ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์ €ํฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹  ๋ถ„์„ ๋ชจ์‹œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ด๋ฒˆ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค์˜ ํ•˜์ด๋ผ์ดํŠธ์ธ NVIDIA์˜ CFO ์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค๋‹˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฐธ์„ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋ฉด์ฑ…์กฐํ•ญ์„ ์ฝ์–ด์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”.

Colette Kress

๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
As a reminder, this presentation contains forward-looking statements, and investors are advised to read our reports filed with the SEC for information related to risks and uncertainties facing our business.์ฐธ๊ณ ๋กœ, ๋ณธ ๋ฐœํ‘œ์—๋Š” ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ˆ์ธก์ง„์ˆ ์ด ํฌํ•จ๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํˆฌ์ž์ž ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜์„œ๋Š” ๋‹น์‚ฌ ์‚ฌ์—…์ด ์ง๋ฉดํ•œ ์œ„ํ—˜๊ณผ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด SEC์— ์ œ์ถœ๋œ ๋‹น์‚ฌ ๋ณด๊ณ ์„œ๋ฅผ ์ฝ์–ด๋ณด์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

โ€ข ์ฃผ์š” ๋‚ด์šฉ ์š”์•ฝ:

- NVIDIA์˜ Colette Kress CFO๊ฐ€ Morgan Stanley Technology, Media & Telecom Conference์— ์ฐธ์„ํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฐœํ‘œ

- ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ Safe Harbor ์„ฑ๋ช…์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ํˆฌ์ž์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ forward-looking statements ๊ด€๋ จ ์ฃผ์˜์‚ฌํ•ญ ์ „๋‹ฌ

- SEC์— ์ œ์ถœ๋œ ๋ณด๊ณ ์„œ ๊ฒ€ํ† ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•œ ์‚ฌ์—… ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ ๋ฐ ๋ถˆํ™•์‹ค์„ฑ ํŒŒ์•… ๊ถŒ๊ณ 

์ด ์งง์€ ๋„์ž…๋ถ€์—์„œ๋Š” ์‹ค์งˆ์ ์ธ ์žฌ๋ฌด ์ง€ํ‘œ๋‚˜ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค๊ฐ€ ์•„์ง ๋…ผ์˜๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ •์‹ ์ปจํผ๋Ÿฐ์Šค ์ฝœ์˜ ์‹œ์ž‘ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž„์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ๋‚ด์šฉ ๋ถ„์„์„ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ด์–ด์ง€๋Š” Q&A ์„ธ์…˜์˜ ์ƒ์„ธ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.


โ“ Q&A

Original Translation
Question-and-Answer Session

Q - Joseph Moore

I guess, I'll read ours too. For important disclosures, please see the Morgan Stanley research disclosure website at morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. If you have questions, please reach out to your sales rep. Anyway, that out of the way, so thank you so much for being here. There's -- we could take three hours, if we had it. But I want to talk about AI, demand drivers, products, supply chain, export controls, and margins kind of in that sequence. So maybe just starting with demand, you had a really good quarter, you grew 18% sequentially in data center for a quarter where the majority of your revenue was Hopper.
์งˆ์˜์‘๋‹ต ์„ธ์…˜

Q - ์กฐ์…‰ ๋ฌด์–ด

์ €ํฌ ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ฝ์–ด๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ณต์‹œ์‚ฌํ•ญ์€ morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๊ฑด์Šคํƒ ๋ฆฌ ๋ฆฌ์„œ์น˜ ๊ณต์‹œ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋ฅผ ์ฐธ์กฐํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹œ๋ฉด ๋‹ด๋‹น ์„ธ์ผ์ฆˆ ๋‹ด๋‹น์ž์—๊ฒŒ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ์ด์ œ ๋ณธ๋ก ์œผ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์„œ, ์ฐธ์„ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด 3์‹œ๊ฐ„๋„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, AI, ์ˆ˜์š” ๋™๋ ฅ, ์ œํ’ˆ, ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง, ์ˆ˜์ถœ ํ†ต์ œ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ˆœ์„œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ € ์ˆ˜์š”๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์„œ, ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋งค์ถœ์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด Hopper์˜€๋˜ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ ์ „๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 18% ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And Blackwell had been delayed a couple of times in different forms and it's clearly kind of a higher ROI -- and you're still selling a lot of Hoppers. So it seems to me that that's a pretty strong indication of demand, there's no reason to pull forward products like that. It seems like you have a very strong demand profile. Can you just talk to that? How did you have a quarter like that when Blackwell wasn't yet doing the heavy lifting? Colette Kress

Yeah. A good question. So we did very well in Q4 in terms of growth. Keep in mind, Blackwell is an amazing architecture. But let's not forget how important Hopper is, in terms of an architecture.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Blackwell์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ฐจ๋ก€ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋กœ ์ง€์—ฐ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋ช…๋ฐฑํžˆ ๋” ๋†’์€ ROI๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ - ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ Hopper๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ํŒ๋งคํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ์ž–์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ˆ˜์š”์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์‹ ํ˜ธ๋กœ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ์•ž๋‹น๊ฒจ ์ถœ์‹œํ•  ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์—†์–ด ๋ณด์ด๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š” ํ”„๋กœํ•„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? Blackwell์ด ์•„์ง ๋ณธ๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์‹ค์ ์„ ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?

์ฝœ๋ › ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค:

๋„ค, ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช…์‹ฌํ•˜์…”์•ผ ํ•  ์ ์€ Blackwell์ด ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ Hopper๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ์ง€๋„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
It's also an amazing, great product or essentially it's the number two best product that is out there. So our H200 did grow sequentially and this is important. People ask us why? Why are people buying Hopper when they know Blackwell is there? Many of our customers are finishing out their builds, producing out their builds in terms of the data center and/or adding on more to an existing cluster that they need more compute to do so. Several customers would like to be in line right now in terms of Blackwell. However, it is going to take some time because of supply. So it is perfectly fine for them to take Hoppers.๋˜ํ•œ ์ด๋Š” ๋†€๋ผ์šด, ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ œํ’ˆ์ด๋ฉฐ ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ์šฐ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ์ œํ’ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ €ํฌ H200์€ ์ˆœ์ฐจ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์„ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ด๋Š” ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ? ๋ธ”๋ž™์›ฐ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ์™œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ˜ธํผ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•˜๋Š”๊ฐ€? ์ €ํฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ค‘ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๊ตฌ์ถ•์„ ์™„๋ฃŒํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ /๋˜๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ปดํ“จํŒ…์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ธฐ์กด ํด๋Ÿฌ์Šคํ„ฐ์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€๋กœ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ๋ธ”๋ž™์›ฐ ๋Œ€๊ธฐ์—ด์— ์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ์„œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ˜ธํผ๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ „ํ˜€ ๋ฌธ์ œ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Hoppers is a great opportunity for them to just get started and move it in there. So we'll continue to see probably Blackwell and Hopper being sold together, that is something that we've seen architecture to architecture, but Blackwell, again is an amazing architecture and I'm sure we'll talk more about that. Joseph Moore

Yeah. Great. Thank you. You also made a comment on the earnings call that I thought was really intriguing that post-training and model conditioning can require orders of magnitude more compute than pre-training, that's a surprising comment to me.
ํ˜ธํผ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์ „ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๊ธฐํšŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ธ”๋ž™์›ฐ๊ณผ ํ˜ธํผ๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํŒ๋งค๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณ„์† ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜ ๊ฐ„์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ด์˜จ ํ˜„์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ธ”๋ž™์›ฐ์€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜์ด๊ณ , ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์กฐ์…‰ ๋ฌด์–ด

๋„ค, ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์  ๋ฐœํ‘œ์—์„œ ํ•˜์‹  ๋ง์”€ ์ค‘์— ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ํฌ์ŠคํŠธ ํŠธ๋ ˆ์ด๋‹๊ณผ ๋ชจ๋ธ ์ปจ๋””์…”๋‹์ด ํ”„๋ฆฌ ํŠธ๋ ˆ์ด๋‹๋ณด๋‹ค ๋ช‡ ๋ฐฐ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ปดํ“จํŒ…์„ ์š”๊ตฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋†€๋ผ์šด ์ฝ”๋ฉ˜ํŠธ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
I feel like a year ago, we were thinking this market is mostly what we're now calling pre-training, then you talk about inference being a large portion of revenue. Now you're talking about this kind of post model training and conditioning or post-training and conditioning. Can you just talk about what's driving that statement, where that compute demand is coming from? Colette Kress

Yeah. Very good question. It's actually one of our three scaling laws that we see. We used to talk about training as just a whole that training is an important market, inference is an important market, both of them are.
์ €๋Š” 1๋…„ ์ „๋งŒ ํ•ด๋„ ์ด ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์ฃผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์‚ฌ์ „ ํ›ˆ๋ จ(pre-training)์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋•Œ ์ถ”๋ก (inference)์ด ๋งค์ถœ์˜ ์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ชจ๋ธ ํ›„ ํ›ˆ๋ จ ๋ฐ ์ปจ๋””์…”๋‹(post model training and conditioning) ๋˜๋Š” ์‚ฌํ›„ ํ›ˆ๋ จ ๋ฐ ์ปจ๋””์…”๋‹(post-training and conditioning)์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐœ์–ธ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๋ฐฐ๊ฒฝ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋””์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค(Colette Kress):

๋„ค, ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์Šค์ผ€์ผ๋ง ๋ฒ•์น™ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ์ „์—๋Š” ํ›ˆ๋ จ์„ ์ „์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋กœ ๋ฌถ์–ด์„œ ํ›ˆ๋ จ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด๊ณ , ์ถ”๋ก ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
But within training, the very onset of building a foundation model, the pre-training phase doesn't limit it to all that it needs to do. Even in pre-training, we continue to see more and more compute being needed as they work in turn of -- again refining the model and multimodal is a very big part of pre-training as well, where we are looking in terms of video, pictures and/or something just as a graph that would be on a PDF. How do you incorporate that even in terms of your pre-trained model and fine tuning that? But yes, post training is a magnitude of increase in terms of the need of compute. This is when you're fine tuning your models.ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ›ˆ๋ จ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ, ํŒŒ์šด๋ฐ์ด์…˜ ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ธ ์‚ฌ์ „ ํ›ˆ๋ จ(pre-training) ๋‹จ๊ณ„๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋ชจ๋“  ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ œํ•œํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ์ „ ํ›ˆ๋ จ์—์„œ๋„ ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ์ ์  ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ํŒŒ์›Œ๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณ„์† ํ™•์ธํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฉ€ํ‹ฐ๋ชจ๋‹ฌ(multimodal)์ด ์‚ฌ์ „ ํ›ˆ๋ จ์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋น„๋””์˜ค, ์‚ฌ์ง„, ๋˜๋Š” PDF์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜ํ”„์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์ „ ํ›ˆ๋ จ๋œ ๋ชจ๋ธ์— ํ†ตํ•ฉํ•˜๊ณ  ํŒŒ์ธํŠœ๋‹ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ์‚ฌํ›„ ํ›ˆ๋ จ(post training)์€ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ์ˆ˜์š” ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธ‰์ˆ˜์ ์ธ ์ฆ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ํŒŒ์ธํŠœ๋‹ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
You're fine tuning, distilling it, getting it to a very tight group that can be also available for a very important part of training and that's going to be the reasoning part. Reasoning is a very key driver of the additional compute that is going to be necessary and necessary fully for the inferencing as well. So the growth that we see already in post training and the size of models that will be built will continue to enhance the amount of compute necessary. Joseph Moore

Thank you for that. And then, the other interesting dynamic is the inference and reasoning models. We're moving to much more complicated tasks on the inference side.
ํŒŒ์ธํŠœ๋‹์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ด๋ฅผ ์ •์ œํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฆ๋ฅ˜ํ•˜์—ฌ, ํ›ˆ๋ จ์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ธ ์ถ”๋ก  ๋ถ€๋ถ„์—๋„ ํ™œ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธด๋ฐ€ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ถ”๋ก ์€ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ํŒŒ์›Œ์˜ ํ•ต์‹ฌ ๋™๋ ฅ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ถ”๋ก (inferencing)์—๋„ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํฌ์ŠคํŠธ ํŠธ๋ ˆ์ด๋‹์—์„œ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ฑ์žฅ๊ณผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•๋  ๋ชจ๋ธ์˜ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋Š” ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ์–‘์„ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์‹œํ‚ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์—ญํ•™์€ ์ถ”๋ก  ๋ฐ ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ๋‹ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ถ”๋ก  ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ์ž‘์—…์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
So it's clear that the compute goes up, and you guys have sort of talked about the DeepSeek-R1 as an indication of that one of the first big reasoning models and a positive. Obviously, the stock market had some anxiety about that. And I guess, maybe you could just talk to the concern of -- there is some comments that you can do DeepSeek inference on lower-end hardware that they can charge very low token prices. Just kind of talk us through why that's a clear positive to you guys that we're doing reasoning at this level. Colette Kress

Okay. Reasoning is an important new phase of the types of models that we will see, why are reasoning models going to be with us?
๋„ค, ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ์š”๊ตฌ๋Ÿ‰์ด ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•˜๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค๋„ DeepSeek-R1์„ ์ตœ์ดˆ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ์ถ”๋ก  ๋ชจ๋ธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ด์ž ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์ง€ํ‘œ๋กœ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•ด ์˜ค์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ฃผ์‹์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ๋ถˆ์•ˆ๊ฐ์„ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ถ”์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ๋Š”, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์šฐ๋ ค์‚ฌํ•ญ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š” -- DeepSeek ์ถ”๋ก ์„ ๋” ๋‚ฎ์€ ์‚ฌ์–‘์˜ ํ•˜๋“œ์›จ์–ด์—์„œ๋„ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‚ฎ์€ ํ† ํฐ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์„ ์ฑ…์ •ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ผ๋ถ€ ์˜๊ฒฌ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ˆ˜์ค€์—์„œ ์ถ”๋ก ์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์™œ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ๊ธ์ •์  ์š”์†Œ์ธ์ง€ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค:

๋„ค, ์ถ”๋ก ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๋ชจ๋ธ ์œ ํ˜•๋“ค์˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ถ”๋ก  ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•  ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ผ๊นŒ์š”?
Because the future is really about the software changes and building out agentic software solutions. So you're going to need models that are actually making decisions and reasoning. Now what arrived was one model in terms of reasoning. Now there is different ways to create that reasoning model that DeepSeek did, but one of the most important things that was well-understood is the type of data that you need, the type of expert data that you need to answer these long thinking, reasoning types of inferencing that you'll get will be very important.๋ฏธ๋ž˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด ๋ณ€ํ™”์™€ ์—์ด์ „ํ‹ฑ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด ์†”๋ฃจ์…˜ ๊ตฌ์ถ•์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์˜์‚ฌ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ถ”๋ก ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์ถ”๋ก  ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด ๋“ฑ์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. DeepSeek์ด ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ถ”๋ก  ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ด๋œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์˜ ์œ ํ˜•, ์ฆ‰ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์žฅ์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ์™€ ์ถ”๋ก  ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ์ถ”๋ก ์— ๋‹ตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ „๋ฌธ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์˜ ์œ ํ˜•์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
So even what we have built in terms of an inferencing platform, inferencing has been near and dear to us for most of the decade, knowing that this will be in a very, very important market. And we've actually created systems now highly, highly focused in terms of that inferencing stage. Inferencing for us, we've probably improved its performance by more than 200x just over the last two years in what we've done and accomplished. But thinking through what they did in terms of building a model as they did, a different technique with more experts than some of the new reasoning models that you would see.์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถ”๋ก  ํ”Œ๋žซํผ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ถ”๋ก ์€ ์ง€๋‚œ 10๋…„ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์˜์—ญ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ, ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž„์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด์ œ ์ถ”๋ก  ๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ๊ณ ๋„๋กœ, ๊ณ ๋„๋กœ ์ง‘์ค‘๋œ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๋“ค์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์–ด ์ถ”๋ก  ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ง€๋‚œ 2๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ์„ 200๋ฐฐ ์ด์ƒ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ํ•œ ์ผ๋“ค์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ถ”๋ก  ๋ชจ๋ธ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ธฐ๋ฒ•์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
But again, the amount of compute that's only right now focusing in a certain region of the world, you will still need more as these advanced reasoning models come together and particularly for the stage of inferencing. Let's kind of step back in terms of what the amount of token generation that will also be there with something like a DeepSeek model or an OpenAI model or what you may even see in terms of Grok. Many of these new reasoning models are actually producing tokens upfront in terms of to give you a theory of their thought pattern on how they determined the reasoning. That is additional tokens that they will even start out even before they've determined an end answer of that.ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ํ˜„์žฌ ์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ ํŠน์ • ์ง€์—ญ์—๋งŒ ์ง‘์ค‘๋˜์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ์ž์›์˜ ์–‘์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•  ๋•Œ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ณ ๋„ํ™”๋œ ์ถ”๋ก  ๋ชจ๋ธ๋“ค์ด ๊ฒฐํ•ฉ๋˜๊ณ  ํŠนํžˆ ์ถ”๋ก  ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ž์›์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. DeepSeek ๋ชจ๋ธ์ด๋‚˜ OpenAI ๋ชจ๋ธ, ๋˜๋Š” Grok์—์„œ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ† ํฐ ์ƒ์„ฑ๋Ÿ‰ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ•œ ๊ฑธ์Œ ๋’ค๋กœ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿฌ์„œ์„œ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ถ”๋ก  ๋ชจ๋ธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ๋‹ค์ˆ˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ถ”๋ก ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ํŒจํ„ด์˜ ์ด๋ก ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‚ฌ์ „์— ํ† ํฐ์„ ์ƒ์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ตœ์ข… ๋‹ต์•ˆ์„ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ์ „์— ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜๋Š” ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ํ† ํฐ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
So these are also increasing token generation, increasing overall revenue opportunities that they are all putting in terms of these models. Joseph Moore

Very helpful. Thank you. So you shift to talk about products a little bit. Blackwell, you did $11 billion in the quarter, which was a big number, a bigger number than I thought certainly. But you've also talked about unprecedented complexity and many different flavors that the different versions and variants are taking time to get out. Can you talk about where we are with that complexity? Maybe GB200 in particular, we've obviously made some progress, there is general availability in multiple places.
์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์ด ํ† ํฐ ์ƒ์„ฑ์„ ์ฆ๊ฐ€์‹œํ‚ค๊ณ , ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์ˆ˜์ต ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ๋Š˜๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋“ค์ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ชจ๋ธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ํˆฌ์ž…๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

๋งค์šฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Blackwell์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— 110์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ํฐ ์ˆ˜์น˜์˜€๊ณ , ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ํฐ ์ˆ˜์น˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ „๋ก€ ์—†๋Š” ๋ณต์žก์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ฒ„์ „๋“ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ณ€ํ˜•๋“ค์ด ์ถœ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ณต์žก์„ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ˜„์žฌ ์–ด๋А ๋‹จ๊ณ„์— ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ํŠนํžˆ GB200์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์ง„์ „์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ผ๋ฐ˜ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์ด ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
What hurdles do you still have going forward on the supply chain there? Colette Kress

Yeah. We were really pleased with Q4 to bring Blackwell to market. We had expected in the onset of possibly several billion dollarsโ€™ worth of Blackwell, but we actually did $11 billion of that. And that was a pure, pure effort with our suppliers and with our partners bringing that to market as supply was going to be necessary. What we were really focused on was our customers. We had made a change back in Q3 to the mask. We have the chip, it was all in perfect condition and ready to go. And yes, our systems are sophisticated in bringing them to market.
๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง ๊ด€๋ จํ•ด์„œ ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ค ์žฅ์• ๋ฌผ๋“ค์ด ๋‚จ์•„์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค

๋„ค, 4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— Blackwell์„ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ถœ์‹œํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ •๋ง ๋งŒ์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ์ˆ˜์‹ญ์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ Blackwell ๋งค์ถœ์„ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ–ˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” 110์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๊ณต๊ธ‰์ด ํ•„์ˆ˜์ ์ด์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค๊ณผ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์ˆœ์ˆ˜ํ•œ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์˜ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์ง‘์ค‘ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 3๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์นฉ์€ ์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ ์ƒํƒœ๋กœ ์ค€๋น„๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์€ ์ด๋ฅผ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์žˆ์–ด ์ •๊ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
But all we want to do is to make sure our customers get back on track in building these and putting them into the data centers for their end customers that they have. So we're back on track, we are going to spend another quarter this Q1, again trying to reach the availability that is going to be necessary in the cloud with Blackwell and shipping this to customers. So another quarter of expediting and a very, very strong ramp of Blackwell. Each of the different configurations are important. There are configurations that are available for water cooled, there are configurations that are really been put together for inferencing.ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ตœ์ข… ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ์— ์„ค์น˜ํ•˜๋Š” ์ž‘์—…์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ถค๋„์— ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋†“๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ถค๋„์— ์˜ฌ๋ผ์„ฐ์œผ๋ฉฐ, 1๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ํ•œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋” ํˆฌ์žํ•˜์—ฌ ํด๋ผ์šฐ๋“œ์—์„œ Blackwell์˜ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์šฉ์„ฑ์„ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ถœํ•˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋” ์‹ ์†ํžˆ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  Blackwell์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋žจํ”„์—…์„ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ๊ฐ์˜ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜๋ƒ‰์‹์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ถ”๋ก ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋œ ์„ค์ •๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And for one of the first times, some of these large clusters will be uniquely just for inferencing upfront. So we're working well with our suppliers. They have been extremely helpful and I think again it will be another great quarter. Joseph Moore

Great. Thank you for that. And then you teased out on the earnings call that at GTC, which is just a couple of weeks away now, your developers forum, we'll hear more about Blackwell Ultra. And I feel like you're wrestling with the complexity around the current variant and now we're talking about new variants.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฒ˜์Œ์œผ๋กœ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ํด๋Ÿฌ์Šคํ„ฐ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ฒ˜์Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ถ”๋ก  ์ „์šฉ์œผ๋กœ๋งŒ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค๊ณผ ์›ํ™œํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ˜‘๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ , ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

๋‹ต๋ณ€ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ ๋ฐœํ‘œ์—์„œ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด์ œ ๋ถˆ๊ณผ ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜จ GTC, ์ฆ‰ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ์ž ํฌ๋Ÿผ์—์„œ Blackwell Ultra์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ฒ„์ „์„ ๋‘˜๋Ÿฌ์‹ผ ๋ณต์žก์„ฑ๊ณผ ์”จ๋ฆ„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ์ด์ œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ฒ„์ „๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋„ค์š”.
Does that incur more complexity or are there things you can do to sort of address some of these early issues with some of those new products? Colette Kress

Yeah. So one of the parts of our Blackwell architecture is we've moved to a data center scale type of infrastructure. We are making sure that we are thinking through every aspect of data coming into the data center, how to utilize it effectively, and really get to a position that you have the lowest total cost of ownership of the entire cluster together. Now that enabled within our GB200, our existing architecture end market and we'll see something similar when we move to the Ultra version.
์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ๋“ค์˜ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋“ค์„ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์กฐ์น˜๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋” ๋ณต์žกํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€์š”?

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค

๋„ค. ์ €ํฌ Blackwell ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜์˜ ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ์ธํ”„๋ผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด์˜ค๋Š” ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ธก๋ฉด, ์ด๋ฅผ ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ฒ ์ €ํžˆ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ „์ฒด ํด๋Ÿฌ์Šคํ„ฐ์˜ ์ด ์†Œ์œ  ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ตœ์ € ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์œ„์น˜์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ €ํฌ GB200๊ณผ ๊ธฐ์กด ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜ ์ตœ์ข… ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๊ตฌํ˜„๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, Ultra ๋ฒ„์ „์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•  ๋•Œ๋„ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
So our positioning of how we've gotten to this data center scale will take us far as we go forward and we are not expecting any really challenges. It's the same architecture as we move to the Ultra version with different types of components pieces of it. But again, it will be another great architecture for us. Joseph Moore

Great. Thank you. So maybe if we could talk about product in the context of competition. There's been a fair amount of enthusiasm for custom silicon or ASICs, which are right now about 10% of the market, and people sort of focus on -- NVIDIA has got really big numbers and those are smaller numbers, so those numbers can grow more.
๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•œ ํฌ์ง€์…”๋‹์€ ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ฐ ํฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์‹ค์งˆ์ ์ธ ๋„์ „ ๊ณผ์ œ๋Š” ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Ultra ๋ฒ„์ „์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•  ๋•Œ๋„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ๊ตฌ์„ฑ ์š”์†Œ๋“ค์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋™์ผํ•œ ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ์˜ ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์žฅ์˜ ์•ฝ 10%๋ฅผ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ปค์Šคํ…€ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜์ด๋‚˜ ASIC์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋†’์•„์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ NVIDIA๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ํฐ ์ˆ˜์น˜๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋กํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ์— ๋น„ํ•ด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ˆ˜์น˜๋“ค์€ ์ž‘๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ˆ˜์น˜๋“ค์ด ๋” ํฌ๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์— ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
My view has kind of been that you can hold that 90% share unless something changes. And what do -- what can you do to ensure that you maintain that incumbency benefit that you have? And why is there so much investment in custom silicon from your customers when you're delivering so much performance? Colette Kress

Yeah. The focus in terms of custom silicon, is not exactly a new discussion, probably for seven years, indicating here is going to be an important move in terms of the custom silicon. But it's very well understood, it's very difficult. It's very difficult what we do in terms of building the compute that we do.
์ œ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋กœ๋Š” ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์—†๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ทธ 90% ์ ์œ ์œจ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์กด ์—…์ฒด๋กœ์„œ์˜ ์ด์ ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋‚œ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ๋„ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์ปค์Šคํ…€ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜์— ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค:

๋„ค. ์ปค์Šคํ…€ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋…ผ์˜๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ 7๋…„ ์ •๋„ ์ „๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ปค์Šคํ…€ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์›€์ง์ž„์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ง€์ ํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง„ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ๊ตฌ์ถ• ์ž‘์—…์€ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
It's not just about designing a chip and the importance of understanding the developer community, the software, the systems, the forwards compatibility, the backwards compatibility is still right in front of us as the most important thing. What we do in terms of the systems we build, we're trying to find those lowest TCO for our customers for them to use. Designing extra tips, giving it an opportunity to do so, sure. Others doesn't surprise us that means something they will try.๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ์นฉ์„ ์„ค๊ณ„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœ์ž ์ปค๋ฎค๋‹ˆํ‹ฐ, ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด, ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ, ์ƒ์œ„ ํ˜ธํ™˜์„ฑ, ํ•˜์œ„ ํ˜ธํ™˜์„ฑ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ค‘์š”์„ฑ์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•ž์— ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ณผ์ œ๋กœ ๋†“์—ฌ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋‚ฎ์€ TCO(์ด์†Œ์œ ๋น„์šฉ)๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ํŒ์„ ์„ค๊ณ„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์—…์ฒด๋“ค์ด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์‹œ๋„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋†€๋ผ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
It's been interesting to watch how many designs actually never made it to market and/or designs even halfway when we come up with a GTC and a new architecture, it's a scrap or even going back into work to get that done. So I don't think anything really has changed. It's perceived as an opportunity, do I have another choice would that be? But almost all, if not every one of our customers is still on NVIDIA, even though they may think that they may go down a custom piece of it. Joseph Moore

Yeah. Colette Kress

And that is because we are the best performant, but also the best TCO for what they're doing.
์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ถœ์‹œ๋˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ ์„ค๊ณ„๋“ค์ด๋‚˜, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ GTC์™€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐœํ‘œํ•  ๋•Œ ์ค‘๊ฐ„ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์—์„œ ํ๊ธฐ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ž‘์—…์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์„ค๊ณ„๋“ค์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์€์ง€ ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ณ€ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋กœ ์ธ์‹๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์„ ํƒ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“ , ์•„๋‹ˆ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ NVIDIA๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋ก ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งž์ถคํ˜• ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ• ์ง€๋ผ๋„ ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

๋„ค.

Colette Kress

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ TCO(์ด์†Œ์œ ๋น„์šฉ)๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Joseph Moore

And I guess, the pushback I get on that and I agree with what you said that the companies are making those investments. So they're investing in customers, so they're going to putting money into it. And I know Jensen made a pretty good counterpoint, which is we also invest in alternative foundries, but there's still only one TSMC. Is that kind of the way that you see it? Colette Kress

It is just in case any different type of risk that we would have. There is many examples where what would I do if I only had one. What can I do in terms of monitoring a different perspective of risk? But yes, as you can see, we do spend a significant amount of our time with TSMC on that.
์กฐ์…‰ ๋ฌด์–ด

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๋ฐ˜๋ฐ• ์˜๊ฒฌ์€, ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ธฐ์—…๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํˆฌ์ž๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์— ๋™์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ๊ณ ๊ฐ์—๊ฒŒ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์ž๊ธˆ์„ ํˆฌ์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์  ์Šจ์ด ๊ฝค ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐ˜๋ฐ•์„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ๋Œ€์•ˆ์ ์ธ ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ฆฌ์— ํˆฌ์žํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ TSMC๋Š” ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฟ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค

๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์œ ํ˜•์˜ ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ์— ๋Œ€๋น„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŒ์•ฝ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋งŒ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ก€๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€์ ์˜ ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋‹ˆํ„ฐ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” TSMC์™€ ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
But again, we wouldn't mind if we had another one or even if we had three of that. So yes, there's a lot of similarities to look at that. Joseph Moore

Okay. Thank you. And before we leave product, quickly talk about a couple of non-processor things networking. You were down sequentially and InfiniBand was down and it seemed like you were much more focused on sort of Spectrum X going forward, Ethernet. So what do we take away from that? Is there still going to be growth from InfiniBand? Is it -- you said you're going to grow in networking this quarter? Just kind of generally the prospects for your networking business around that? Colette Kress

Yeah.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์„ธ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด๋„ ์ „ํ˜€ ๊ฐœ์˜์น˜ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ ๋งŽ์€ ์œ ์‚ฌ์ ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œํ’ˆ ๊ด€๋ จ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์—, ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์„œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์‚ฌํ•ญ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ„๋‹จํžˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํ‚น ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์—์„œ์š”. ์ „๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ ๊ฐ์†Œํ–ˆ๊ณ  InfiniBand๋„ ํ•˜๋ฝํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ํ–ฅํ›„์—๋Š” ์ด๋”๋„ท์ธ Spectrum X์— ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”? InfiniBand์—์„œ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด -- ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํ‚น ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์ด ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”? ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํ‚น ์‚ฌ์—…์˜ ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์ „๋ง์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š”์ง€์š”?

Colette Kress

๋„ค.
We believe there is an opportunity for growth both on InfiniBand and Ethernet. Both of these are very important to what we've put together in the clusters. Focusing on the moment data enters into a data center to leave is a very important part of why our networking has been so key for many of the clusters that have been put together. Our InfiniBand is a very important full end-to-end system that stems from the days of the early with Mellanox and all top supercomputers are using InfiniBand. And some of the best features that we have in InfiniBand, we're going to take now to Ethernet. Ethernet inclusive of Spectrum X. Ethernet here is not just general purpose Ethernet, it's Ethernet for AI.์ €ํฌ๋Š” InfiniBand์™€ Ethernet ๋ชจ๋‘์—์„œ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋‘ ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•œ ํด๋Ÿฌ์Šคํ„ฐ์—์„œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ์— ์ง„์ž…ํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„๊นŒ์ง€์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ตฌ์ถ•๋œ ๋งŽ์€ ํด๋Ÿฌ์Šคํ„ฐ์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํ‚น์ด ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ ์ธ ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•ด์˜จ ์ด์œ ์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ InfiniBand๋Š” Mellanox ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ ˆ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘๋œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์™„์ „ํ•œ ์—”๋“œํˆฌ์—”๋“œ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋ชจ๋“  ์ตœ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์Šˆํผ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ๋“ค์ด InfiniBand๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  InfiniBand์—์„œ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๊ธฐ๋Šฅ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ด์ œ Ethernet์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ฌ ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Spectrum X๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•œ Ethernet์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” Ethernet์€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ๋ฒ”์šฉ Ethernet์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ AI๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ Ethernet์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
As we have really engineered Ethernet, which is often the standard for enterprises. We are now going to use that same standard of Ethernet, but focusing on what we can do in terms of AI. We're moving from NVL8 or NVLink 8 to our NVL72. This is where clusters are becoming larger in size. You've heard us discuss where we're looking at 100,000 GPUs together. That NVL and the switching that we have done has been essential both for the InfiniBand, but now also for the Ethernet. You'll see us grow throughout this year. We know we'll grow in terms of in Q1 and our networking business will continue to be a big part of the performance that you're receiving in our full systems. Joseph Moore

Okay.
๊ธฐ์—…์šฉ ํ‘œ์ค€์ธ ์ด๋”๋„ท์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์—”์ง€๋‹ˆ์–ด๋งํ•ด ์™”๋“ฏ์ด, ์ด์ œ ๋™์ผํ•œ ์ด๋”๋„ท ํ‘œ์ค€์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋˜ AI ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” NVL8 ๋˜๋Š” NVLink 8์—์„œ NVL72๋กœ ์ด๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ํด๋Ÿฌ์Šคํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ๋” ํฐ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋กœ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ 10๋งŒ ๊ฐœ์˜ GPU๋ฅผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋“ค์œผ์…จ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ NVL๊ณผ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•œ ์Šค์œ„์นญ์€ InfiniBand๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ด์ œ ์ด๋”๋„ท์—๋„ ํ•„์ˆ˜์ ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ๋‚ด๋‚ด ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์‹ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Q1์— ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž„์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ €ํฌ ๋„คํŠธ์›Œํ‚น ์‚ฌ์—…์€ ์ „์ฒด ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์—์„œ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ์„ฑ๊ณผ์˜ ํฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ๊ณ„์† ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์กฐ์…‰ ๋ฌด์–ด: ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Thank you for that. Just last part of the question, there is a lot of noise out of Taiwan about supply chain moving this way that way. I guess, I won't go to the specifics of it, but how should we think about all of that? I mean, it seems to me that the more Blackwell you have, the less hopper you need to build, there is things like that, that are going on. Just it doesn't seem like anything you're saying about this quarter or the demand in the back half of the year would suggest that there is been any change in trajectory. So just help us interpret those data points?๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์งˆ๋ฌธ์˜ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ธ๋ฐ์š”, ๋Œ€๋งŒ์—์„œ ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง์ด ์ด๋ฆฌ์ €๋ฆฌ ์›€์ง์ธ๋‹ค๋Š” ์†Œ์‹๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๋‚ด์šฉ๊นŒ์ง€๋Š” ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ๋“ค์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”? ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์—๋Š” Blackwell์„ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋ณด์œ ํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก Hopper๋ฅผ ๋œ ์ƒ์‚ฐํ•ด๋„ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‹์˜ ๋ณ€ํ™”๋“ค์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋งŒ ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋‚˜ ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ ์ˆ˜์š”์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋‚ด์šฉ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ถค๋„์ƒ์— ์–ด๋–ค ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณผ ๋งŒํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์—†์–ด ๋ณด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ ํฌ์ธํŠธ๋“ค์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
Colette Kress

Where we are right now with our Q1 doing exactly what we did in Q4, scaling that supply to meet the demand that's in front of us. We do have demand that we do want to catch up with the customers, but we have strong demand for Blackwell overall. When you think about what's happening in the supply chain, keep in mind, when we are talking about what we needed for Hopper, that was more than a year ago. What we had to determine in order to shift the amount of Hopper that we even did in Q4. It takes that long in terms of scheduling and processing with all of our different suppliers.
์ฝœ๋ › ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค

ํ˜„์žฌ Q1์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ Q4์—์„œ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋™์ผํ•˜๊ฒŒ, ์•ž์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ณต๊ธ‰์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ „๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ Blackwell์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง์—์„œ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ Hopper์— ํ•„์š”ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ 1๋…„ ์ด์ƒ ์ „์˜ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘์‹œ๊ธฐ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Q4์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ถœํ•˜ํ•œ Hopper ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰์„ ์ „ํ™˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์Šค์ผ€์ค„๋ง๊ณผ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ ๊ณผ์ •์—์„œ ๊ทธ ์ •๋„์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์†Œ์š”๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Many of our suppliers have been with us for nearly 30 years, but keep in mind, we have been a big partner with them scaling the capacities that they need in order to come to market with the size that you have seen us over even just these last eight quarters. So there's a lot of noise in there. But the key thing is with every new kind of architecture, supply is first-off what we've got to scale to. As we do know, we have very, very strong demand of Blackwell in front of us. Joseph Moore

Great. I'd like to talk about export controls. Obviously, another anxiety that the market has. Maybe first starting with the Biden's AI diffusion rules that were announced in early January.
์ €ํฌ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด ์ค‘ ์ƒ๋‹น์ˆ˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ 30๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ €ํฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ช…์‹ฌํ•˜์…”์•ผ ํ•  ์ ์€, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚œ 8๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ณด์…จ๋˜ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋กœ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ง„์ถœํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ƒ์‚ฐ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ํ™•์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์žˆ์–ด ์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํฐ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‹ญ์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•ด์™”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ณ€๋™์š”์ธ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•ต์‹ฌ์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜์—์„œ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์ด ์šฐ์„ ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•์žฅํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” Blackwell์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ์•ž๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ˆ˜์ถœ ํ†ต์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์‹œ์žฅ์ด ์šฐ๋ คํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ์•ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋จผ์ € 1์›” ์ดˆ์— ๋ฐœํ‘œ๋œ ๋ฐ”์ด๋“  ํ–‰์ •๋ถ€์˜ AI ํ™•์‚ฐ ๊ทœ์ •๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
As we sit here today, those are still supposed to go into effect in May, is that still the working assumption? And I'm not asking you to predict the unpredictable, but are you -- how are you planning for this? Are you planning as though that's 100% the rule? That's probably the rule. There may be new rules. Just how do you plan in an environment like this? Colette Kress

Okay. So the Biden's AI diffusion rule did come out in the middle of January or essentially a couple of days before Trump came into office. And so our discussions with the U.S.
ํ˜„์žฌ ์‹œ์ ์—์„œ ์ด ๊ทœ์ •๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ 5์›”์— ๋ฐœํšจ๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ž‘์—… ๊ฐ€์ •์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•ด๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ์š”์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”? ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด 100% ํ™•์‹คํ•œ ๊ทœ์ •์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”? ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ทœ์ •์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ทœ์ •์ด ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ . ์ด๋Ÿฐ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ณ„ํš์„ ์„ธ์šฐ์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค:

๋„ค, ๋ฐ”์ด๋“ ์˜ AI ํ™•์‚ฐ ๊ทœ์ •์€ 1์›” ์ค‘์ˆœ, ๋ณธ์งˆ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํŠธ๋Ÿผํ”„๊ฐ€ ์ทจ์ž„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋ฉฐ์น  ์ „์— ๋ฐœํ‘œ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ์˜ ๋…ผ์˜๋Š”...
government is having sure that they reviewed what this AI diffusion rule means, what it means not to us, but really what it means to the globe, what it means to the many, many countries that are out there. There is a very strong part of it focusing on Tier 2 countries around the world and with a goal in terms of licensing compute for those countries. So we do believe the government is aware they have and are studying the AI diffusion. And we spoke with them quite a bit in terms of the challenges with that. Do we think it's good for compute globally? Do we think it's good for us from a compute? No, that's not the case.์ •๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์ด AI ํ™•์‚ฐ ๊ทœ์ •์ด ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋ฅผ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š”์ง€๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์— ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š”์ง€, ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ˆ˜๋งŽ์€ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ๊ฒ€ํ† ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๊ทœ์ •์—๋Š” ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ 2๋“ฑ๊ธ‰ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค์— ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ˜ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋“ค ๊ตญ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ๋ผ์ด์„ ์‹ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ถ€๊ฐ€ AI ํ™•์‚ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ธ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์—ฐ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๊ณผ์ œ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋งŽ์€ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ปดํ“จํŒ…์— ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”๊ฐ€? ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”๊ฐ€? ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
But at this point, AI diffusion is just under review unless it is changed by the U.S. government and it does go into effect in May. Joseph Moore

I feel like what you would want here is there is going to be clear restrictions in some regions and you're going to work to comply with that. I think the risk that I worry about is that you need a license to ship into some other regions where the presumption is yes. And so if everybody -- this is happening very fast from investing very quickly. If you're going to give it to them, give it to them, don't make us wait six months for a license. Do you think the government can be receptive to that kind of a conversation?
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ˜„์‹œ์ ์—์„œ AI ํ™•์‚ฐ์€ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์ •๋ถ€์— ์˜ํ•ด ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฒ€ํ†  ์ค‘์ด๋ฉฐ, 5์›”์— ๋ฐœํšจ๋  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์ œํ•œ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์ด๋ฅผ ์ค€์ˆ˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ คํ•˜๋Š” ์œ„ํ—˜์€ ์ถ”์ •์ƒ ํ—ˆ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์Šน์ธ๋  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง€์—ญ๋“ค๋กœ ์ถœํ•˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ผ์ด์„ ์Šค๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด -- ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ ์†ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ—ˆ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ๋ผ์ด์„ ์Šค๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด 6๊ฐœ์›”์„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์ •๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”์— ์ˆ˜์šฉ์ ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
Colette Kress

First, I would say, I would love to see a different output of AI diffusion. Let's just say on that piece. On the impact of what this could be, the timing of licensing is unclear. Do we believe possibly that the licensing would work out? It's just quite complex to think about the globe as a total and the amount of countries that we do there. So I think our first plan right now is to help them understand there are better ways. We truly understand what they think about from a Tier 3 perspective and really protecting the U.S. from any military actions on that, now I do understand that, but let's hope that they can rationalize a better process for AI diffusion. Joseph Moore

Okay.
์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค

๋จผ์ €, ์ €๋Š” AI ํ™•์‚ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฏธ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์˜ํ–ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ๋ผ์ด์„ ์‹ฑ์˜ ์‹œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ถˆ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ผ์ด์„ ์‹ฑ์ด ํ•ด๊ฒฐ๋  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๋Š”์ง€์š”? ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์ „์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง„์ถœํ•ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ตญ๊ฐ€๋“ค์˜ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๋ฉด ๋งค์šฐ ๋ณต์žกํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ˜„์žฌ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ๊ณ„ํš์€ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋„๋ก ๋•๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด Tier 3 ๊ด€์ ์—์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์„ ๊ตฐ์‚ฌ์  ํ–‰๋™์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ง„์ •์œผ๋กœ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด AI ํ™•์‚ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค๋ฅผ ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํฌ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์กฐ์…‰ ๋ฌด์–ด

์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Thank you for that. And then the H20 product, which is purpose built for the China market meets the restrictions of -- I think we must have a microphone issue. A lot of focus on that, does that go away with these restrictions? The thing is, it seems to me that product becomes less important over time anyway because there is a threshold of performance and you're just surpassing it by so much that like you've said over and over again that market is going to be very competitive. A lot of people can compete with you when you have to be X percent below what you're capable of doing.๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ค‘๊ตญ ์‹œ์žฅ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ์ œ์ž‘๋œ H20 ์ œํ’ˆ์€ ๊ทœ์ œ ์ œํ•œ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ -- ๋งˆ์ดํฌ์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ œํ•œ์‚ฌํ•ญ๋“ค๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ฒŒ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”? ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์–ด์ฐจํ”ผ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ํ•ด๋‹น ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ ์ค‘์š”์„ฑ์ด ์ค„์–ด๋“ค ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์„ฑ๋Šฅ์˜ ์ž„๊ณ„์ ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋›ฐ์–ด๋„˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๊ทธ ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ด ์น˜์—ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ณธ๋ž˜ ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰๋ณด๋‹ค X ํผ์„ผํŠธ ๋‚ฎ์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ์ œํ•œ๋ฐ›์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
So how important is H20 if that product does get phased out, does it just give us a sense of the impact that could have? Colette Kress

So our H20 product was designed under the current export controls and it has been a product that we have been able to reach demand in China for just very simple models that we are all using here in the U.S. So the concern that you have though is those performance levels are so low. What you are seeing right now with an H20, it's about 25x lower than what you would have in terms of a Blackwell. Going any lower would really be difficult because what it evolves is competition in China.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ H20์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ์ง€, ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ทธ ์ œํ’ˆ์ด ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ์ง€๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์–ด๋–ค ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ฐ์„ ์ข€ ์žก์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค

์ €ํฌ H20 ์ œํ’ˆ์€ ํ˜„์žฌ ์ˆ˜์ถœ ํ†ต์ œ ํ•˜์—์„œ ์„ค๊ณ„๋˜์—ˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ„๋‹จํ•œ ๋ชจ๋ธ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ค‘๊ตญ ๋‚ด ์ˆ˜์š”๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ œํ’ˆ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ คํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๊ทธ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋‚ฎ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ H20์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ Blackwell ๋Œ€๋น„ ์•ฝ 25๋ฐฐ ์ •๋„ ๋‚ฎ์€ ์„ฑ๋Šฅ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ๋‚ฎ์•„์ง„๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘๊ตญ ๋‚ด ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Competition now speaks up and gives an opportunity for what can be available now in China. So a really difficult situation for us and we have been monitoring the amount. But the amount that we are shipping into China versus what we had way before the export controls were at about half, half that level. So what we see in the current quarter that we are in the guidance, we're going to stick at about that same percentage at about half the level of where we were before export controls on this piece of it. H20 will ship it as long as the demand is there and as long as it stays within the reasons of the export controls. Joseph Moore

Okay. Great. Thank you.
๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์‚ฌ๋“ค์ด ์ด์ œ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ ํ˜„์žฌ ์ด์šฉ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด๊ณ , ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰์„ ๊ณ„์† ๋ชจ๋‹ˆํ„ฐ๋งํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘๊ตญ์œผ๋กœ ์ถœํ•˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋Ÿ‰์€ ์ˆ˜์ถœ ํ†ต์ œ ์ด์ „ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์•ฝ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜, ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜ ์ˆ˜์ค€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ˜„์žฌ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ด๋˜์Šค์—์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€, ์ˆ˜์ถœ ํ†ต์ œ ์ด์ „ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ์•ฝ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜์ธ ๋™์ผํ•œ ๋น„์œจ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. H20์€ ์ˆ˜์š”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•œ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์ถœ ํ†ต์ œ์˜ ๋ฒ”์œ„ ๋‚ด์—์„œ ์œ ์ง€๋˜๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ณ„์† ์ถœํ•˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore: ๋„ค, ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
So I have two gross margin questions and I'll open it to the audience to see if -- I'm sure there's more. So gross margin was a little worse than people had expected for April and the return to mid-70s maybe takes a little longer. Can you talk about the underlying issues there, and maybe some anxiety that it's competitive, something like that? It seems like it's mostly the stuff you've been talking about, but can you just give us a sense of what's been pressuring gross margin? Colette Kress

Yeah. The systems that we are building all working well, we're very excited to bring those into market. But remember, we're escalating.
๋„ค, ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ  ๊ด€๋ จ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ฒญ์ค‘๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์—ด์–ด๋‘๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ„๋ช… ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 4์›” ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์ด ์˜ˆ์ƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‹ค์†Œ ๋ถ€์ง„ํ–ˆ๊ณ , 70% ์ค‘๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋กœ์˜ ํšŒ๋ณต์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์˜ค๋ž˜ ๊ฑธ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ทผ๋ณธ์ ์ธ ์ด์Šˆ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ ์ƒํ™ฉ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ ค๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ์š”? ์ง€๊ธˆ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋‚ด์šฉ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ, ๋งค์ถœ์ด์ด์ต๋ฅ ์„ ์••๋ฐ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์š”์ธ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?

**์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค(Colette Kress)**

๋„ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ž˜ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋ฅผ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์…”์•ผ ํ•  ์ ์€, ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
We are escalating everything from any form of speed that we can do to get these to our customers. We will take those actions, that's going to give us the time in the second half of the year for us to focus in terms of adding additional suppliers for many of the material that we do, working in terms of fine tuning our cost structure. That cost structure can be everything from time services as it can be the actual components. So we're right on track for both here at this quarter and we do absolutely see a path for the second half of the year to get back up to the mid-70s. Joseph Moore

Great.
๊ณ ๊ฐ์—๊ฒŒ ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ๊ณต๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์†๋„๋ฅผ ๋†’์—ฌ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์กฐ์น˜๋“ค์„ ์ทจํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ด๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์†Œ์žฌ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ ๊ณต๊ธ‰์—…์ฒด ํ™•๋ณด์™€ ๋น„์šฉ ๊ตฌ์กฐ ์ตœ์ ํ™”์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ™•๋ณดํ•ด ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋น„์šฉ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹ค์ œ ๋ถ€ํ’ˆ์— ์ด๋ฅด๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์— 70% ์ค‘๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋กœ ํšŒ๋ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And on that mid-70s number, I guess, is this just the normal thing that you get to mid-70s at maturity, you introduce new products and kind of go back to this level or was there something anomalous about Blackwell where -- there is moreโ€ฆ

Colette Kress

Blackwell certainly had the anomalous because we had to do the mass change, okay, which really, okay, got us back on schedule. The mass worked very well. But again, we do want to meet what the customers' desires were. They've got their data centers up and going and we need to finish out and get that compute to them as early as possible. So really, it was just that piece of it. But no, I don't expect any of this going forward.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ 70% ์ค‘๋ฐ˜ ์ˆ˜์น˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์„ฑ์ˆ™๊ธฐ์— 70% ์ค‘๋ฐ˜์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๋ฉด ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์ œํ’ˆ์„ ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ด ์ˆ˜์ค€์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ํŒจํ„ด์ธ์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด Blackwell์— ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ์ด์ƒ ์š”์ธ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฑด์ง€... ๋” ๋งŽ์€...

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค

Blackwell์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ด์ƒ ์š”์ธ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ์ผ์ •์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งž์ถœ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ . ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ž˜ ์ž‘๋™ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์˜ ์š”๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ถฉ์กฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์€ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์šด์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ํŒŒ์›Œ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ˆ์ƒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
I think we can focus and maintain just as we end the Q4 in the mid-70s and continue past that. Joseph Moore

Great. Let me see if we have questions from the audience. And I know there is a lot of questions from the audience because they all e-mailed and said, ask her this, ask her that. So I know there is -- anyway, we'll keep going. OpEx -- your OpEx has come up quite a bit. I know it's hard to keep pace with what your top line has been doing. So how should we think about that? You're spending about a $16 billion run rate on R&D. That's a lot -- again, to me, it mitigates some of the anxiety about competition when I see what you're doing there.
4๋ถ„๊ธฐ์— 70% ์ค‘๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋กœ ๋งˆ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ดํ›„์—๋„ ๊ทธ ์ˆ˜์ค€์„ ์ง‘์ค‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒญ์ค‘๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒญ์ค‘๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋งŽ์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ๋กœ "์ด๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๊ณ , ์ €๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋ผ"๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๊ณ„์† ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด - ์šด์˜๋น„์šฉ์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ฆ๊ฐ€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์ถœ ์ƒ๋‹จ์„ ์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ ์†๋„๋ฅผ ๋”ฐ๋ผ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”? R&D์— ์•ฝ 160์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋กœ ์ง€์ถœํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹ ๋ฐ, ์ด๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ธˆ์•ก์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹  ์ผ์„ ๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ ค๋ฅผ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์™„ํ™”์‹œ์ผœ ์ค€๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
But what's going to happen to those spending levels over time? Colette Kress

Yeah. We have the ability to uniquely continue to ramp multiple different architectures based on how we're organized as a company. And we have made a tremendous amount of innovation of work in terms of our R&D teams and bringing on talent. The interest and talent in our company is not a shortage by any means, a tremendous amount of engineers really wanting to join the uniqueness of NVIDIA and how we're structured. But we again are focusing on more and more innovation. You're going to see at GTC, not only us focus in terms of our next version of Blackwell, but also coming in terms of Rubin going forward.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ง€์ถœ ์ˆ˜์ค€์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค

๋„ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์กฐ์ง ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”ํƒ•์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™•๋Œ€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋…ํŠนํ•œ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๋ณด์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  R&D ํŒ€๊ณผ ์ธ์žฌ ์˜์ž… ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ํ˜์‹  ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ด€์‹ฌ๊ณผ ์ธ์žฌ ๋ถ€์กฑ์€ ์ „ํ˜€ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์—”๋น„๋””์•„์˜ ๋…ํŠนํ•จ๊ณผ ์ €ํฌ ์กฐ์ง ๊ตฌ์กฐ์— ํ•ฉ๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š” ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ์ˆ˜์˜ ์—”์ง€๋‹ˆ์–ด๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ํ˜์‹ ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. GTC์—์„œ ์ฐจ์„ธ๋Œ€ ๋ธ”๋ž™์›ฐ ๋ฒ„์ „์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์ง‘์ค‘๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์ถœ์‹œ๋  ๋ฃจ๋นˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
That takes not only the engineering but our engineers' work on compute. And we are working in terms of innovating and making sure everything that we're bringing to market meets those goals of bringing this to market. However, how fast can we go? You're right, it's very difficult to keep up in terms of the revenue growth that we did. And we're actually careful about it. More and more of the same versus being able to absorb the talent that we've brought in, making sure that is all in line before we reach the next window for more hiring. But we're doing it carefully.์ด๋Š” ์—”์ง€๋‹ˆ์–ด๋ง๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์—”์ง€๋‹ˆ์–ด๋“ค์˜ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹œ์žฅ ์ถœ์‹œ๋ผ๋Š” ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ˜์‹ ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•œ ๋งค์ถœ ์„ฑ์žฅ๋ฅ ์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ฑ„์šฉ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ๊ธฐํšŒ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์—, ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋™์ผํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜์ž…ํ•œ ์ธ์žฌ๋“ค์„ ํก์ˆ˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ผ์น˜ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
But yes, you will still see us grow probably in about the mid-30%s this year, a little bit lower than last year, but still growing quite strong. Joseph Moore

So maybe we could talk about some of the future -- more growth -- longer-term growth initiatives. Starting with software and services, you've talked about your software revenue stream of growing over time. You've also talked about offering various cloud partner -- cloud services in partnership with your cloud customers. Can you talk about the investment in those initiatives and how that's paying off? Colette Kress

Sure.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ์˜ฌํ•ด๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ 30% ์ค‘๋ฐ˜ ์ •๋„์˜ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ ๋ณด์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž‘๋…„๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋‚ฎ์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๊ฐ•ํ•œ ์„ฑ์žฅ์„ธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

**Joseph Moore**

๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€ -- ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์„ฑ์žฅ -- ์žฅ๊ธฐ์ ์ธ ์„ฑ์žฅ ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด์™€ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์„œ, ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด ์ˆ˜์ต ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆผ์ด ์„ฑ์žฅํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ํด๋ผ์šฐ๋“œ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์‹ญ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ํด๋ผ์šฐ๋“œ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ -- ํด๋ผ์šฐ๋“œ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ ๋„ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๊ณ ์š”. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ด๋‹ˆ์…”ํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž์™€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?

**Colette Kress**

๋ฌผ๋ก ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Software is an important part of not only our full outlook that we have, it's not just being a hardware sale because so much of what we do is fueling Software 2.0 going forward. In order to think about the evolution of how software is done today and how software will do in the future, we also have to have a big part in that software connecting our systems all the way to the application and up through to the APIs. We have developed a very strong amount of applications and libraries that help so much of this industry go forward. Your enterprise customers are a high focus.์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ „์ฒด ์ „๋ง์—์„œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ผ ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ, ๋‹จ์ˆœํ•œ ํ•˜๋“œ์›จ์–ด ํŒ๋งค๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์˜ ์ƒ๋‹น ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์•ž์œผ๋กœ Software 2.0์„ ์ถ”์ง„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜๋‚  ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ž‘๋™ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ง„ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‹œ์Šคํ…œ์„ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜๊นŒ์ง€, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  API๊นŒ์ง€ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด์—์„œ๋„ ํฐ ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด ์—…๊ณ„์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๋•๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜๊ณผ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ๋Ÿฌ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๊ธฐ์—… ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ๊ด€์‹ฌ์‚ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
This is not where they have that hardware engineering and/or the software engineering to reroute and rethink about their software going forward, we've built out these models for them. We have a tremendous amount of help that we do with them. NVIDIA AI E and our NIMs are some of the two most important things that we see for this market. They look in terms of licensing our NVIDIA AI E that gives them the hold at NVIDIA to help them with keeping it current, keeping the security concern for any of their mission-critical applications that they do. NIMs, NIMs is an important part that we do in helping them take their models, make them better, optimize them.์ด๋Š” ํ•˜๋“œ์›จ์–ด ์—”์ง€๋‹ˆ์–ด๋ง์ด๋‚˜ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด ์—”์ง€๋‹ˆ์–ด๋ง์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ํ–ฅํ›„ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์žฌ๊ตฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ณ  ์žฌ๊ณ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ญ๋Ÿ‰์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ณณ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ชจ๋ธ๋“ค์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•ด ๋“œ๋ฆฐ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๋„์›€์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. NVIDIA AI E์™€ ์ €ํฌ NIM์€ ์ด ์‹œ์žฅ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด๋Š” ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์š”์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ NVIDIA AI E ๋ผ์ด์„ ์‹ฑ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋ณด๋ฉด, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ NVIDIA์˜ ์ง€์›์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์—ฌ ์ตœ์‹  ์ƒํƒœ๋ฅผ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฏธ์…˜ ํฌ๋ฆฌํ‹ฐ์ปฌ ์• ํ”Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ€์ด์…˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ณด์•ˆ ์šฐ๋ ค์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์„ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. NIM, NIM์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์˜ ๋ชจ๋ธ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์™€์„œ ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๋ชจ๋ธ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์ตœ์ ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
They'll bring them onto our DGX Cloud so that we can help them optimize and bring all of their software needs to market with ours. These are truly a joint effort, software and services together, but we just about left this quarter with strong bookings at closely a run rate of about $2 billion. And I think we're going to see this significantly grow going forward as well. Joseph Moore

Great. And then some of the longer-term projects around Omniverse, humanoid robots, things like that. I think, I didn't believe 100% of Jensen's vision a decade ago about AI. So I'm going to listen this time when he talks about these things.
๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์ €ํฌ DGX Cloud๋กœ ๋ฐ๋ ค์™€์„œ ์ตœ์ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋„์™€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด ์š”๊ตฌ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ์ €ํฌ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ถœ์‹œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ง€์›ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ง„์ •์œผ๋กœ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด์™€ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณต๋™ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์ด๋ฒˆ ๋ถ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์•ฝ 20์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ์˜ ๋Ÿฐ๋ ˆ์ดํŠธ์— ๊ทผ์ ‘ํ•œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์ˆ˜์ฃผ๋กœ ๋งˆ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•ž์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•  ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  Omniverse, ํœด๋จธ๋…ธ์ด๋“œ ๋กœ๋ด‡ ๋“ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์žฅ๊ธฐ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ์š”. 10๋…„ ์ „ AI์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์  ์Šจ์˜ ๋น„์ „์„ 100% ๋ฏฟ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๋ฒˆ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ผ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
But how much are you investing in those projects and what are the aspirations? Are these are obviously manifestations of physical AI and things like that? But do you want to build robots? Do you want to be in the business of doing the hardware or are you more in an enabling role in that? Colette Kress

Okay. The physical AI and the robotics is a really interesting piece. We've been down this journey now where everything that we've seen from generative AI. Generative AI now growing in terms of to agentic. Past agentic is going to be physical AI in the robotics. Now if you think about it, there is some similarity to what you're seeing with the transportation industry and seen with automotive.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋ฉฐ, ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์  AI ๋“ฑ์˜ ๊ตฌํ˜„์ฒด๋“ค์ธ๋ฐ, ๋กœ๋ด‡์„ ์ œ์กฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”? ํ•˜๋“œ์›จ์–ด ์‚ฌ์—…์— ์ง์ ‘ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ง€์› ์—ญํ• ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”?

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค:

๋„ค. ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์  AI์™€ ๋กœ๋ณดํ‹ฑ์Šค๋Š” ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋ถ„์•ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ƒ์„ฑํ˜• AI์—์„œ ๋ณด์•„์˜จ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ด ์—ฌ์ •์„ ๊ฑธ์–ด์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ์„ฑํ˜• AI๋Š” ์ด์ œ ์—์ด์ „ํ‹ฑ(agentic)์œผ๋กœ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—์ด์ „ํ‹ฑ์„ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ๋ฉด ๋กœ๋ณดํ‹ฑ์Šค ๋ถ„์•ผ์˜ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์  AI๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด์‹œ๋ฉด, ์šด์†ก ์‚ฐ์—…๊ณผ ์ž๋™์ฐจ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
You've got a brain in the data center, you've got a brain inside of the car, software, which has been fueling, and models that have been built really understanding the physical landscape of what you're doing. So robotics and/or physical AI are more of the same. Let me get a full picture of the warehouse, the full picture of the manufacturing with Omniverse. Let me redesign how the robots work in there. Additionally, what we see in terms of robots that will be walking and/or hauling transportation items and things like that. Is it our plan to build robots, it would be asking us the same thing, do we want to build cars?๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ์—๋Š” ๋‘๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ž๋™์ฐจ ๋‚ด๋ถ€์—๋„ ๋‘๋‡Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ๋™ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์  ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์—์„œ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ์ง„์ •์œผ๋กœ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋ธ๋“ค์ด ๊ตฌ์ถ•๋˜์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋กœ๋ณดํ‹ฑ์Šค๋‚˜ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์  AI๋Š” ์ด์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋งฅ๋ฝ์˜ ์—ฐ์žฅ์„ ์ƒ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Omniverse๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ฐฝ๊ณ ์˜ ์ „์ฒด์ ์ธ ๋ชจ์Šต, ์ œ์กฐ์—…์˜ ์ „์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ทธ๋ฆผ์„ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์•ˆ์—์„œ ๋กœ๋ด‡๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์žฌ์„ค๊ณ„ํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ๋ณดํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์šด์†ก ๋ฌผํ’ˆ ๋“ฑ์„ ์šด๋ฐ˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๋กœ๋ด‡๋“ค ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋กœ๋ด‡์„ ์ œ์กฐํ•  ๊ณ„ํš์ด๋ƒ๊ณ  ๋ฌป๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋™์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌป๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
No, but we do want to be both a partner in terms of the compute that is going to be necessary, the design of that, but also the software platform that will be needed. And I think you'll just see more and more continuation about what we're doing with automotive that can also be applied to what we're doing with investments in robotics or physical AI. Joseph Moore

And given the amount of time it takes the automotive industry to adopt stuff, you might see the technology manifest sooner in other areas. Colette Kress

I think it's going to move a little bit faster.
์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ์˜ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ , ๊ทธ ์„ค๊ณ„๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด ํ”Œ๋žซํผ์—์„œ๋„ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋™์ฐจ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ๋“ค์ด ๋กœ๋ณดํ‹ฑ์Šค๋‚˜ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์  AI์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํˆฌ์ž์—์„œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์—๋„ ์ ์šฉ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์—์„œ ๋”์šฑ ๋งŽ์€ ์—ฐ์†์„ฑ์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

**Joseph Moore**

๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž๋™์ฐจ ์‚ฐ์—…์ด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ์ฑ„ํƒํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๋ฉด, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ด ๋” ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

**Colette Kress**

์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์›€์ง์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Certainly, on the robotics, there is been a lot of different techniques, certainly starting from some of the best things that we saw with the cars. The cars started with a lot of the start-ups, the start-ups building up and you're seeing the exact same thing about the robotics. Joseph Moore

How much of the investment is it going forward? Because I do -- I mean, one of the arguments we get is, I say, NVIDIA is investing this much in R&D, it's hard to overtake them and to see how they're spending on these other things. Can you just give us a sense for how much of it is going to the green shoots types of projects?
๋กœ๋ณดํ‹ฑ์Šค ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠนํžˆ ์ž๋™์ฐจ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ๋ณด์•˜๋˜ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ก€๋“ค๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์ž๋™์ฐจ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์Šคํƒ€ํŠธ์—…๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ , ์Šคํƒ€ํŠธ์—…๋“ค์ด ์„ฑ์žฅํ•ด ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋ณด์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋กœ๋ณดํ‹ฑ์Šค์—์„œ๋„ ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ˜„์ƒ์„ ๋ชฉ๊ฒฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

ํ–ฅํ›„ ํˆฌ์ž ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋Š” ์–ด๋А ์ •๋„๊ฐ€ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”? ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๋…ผ๋ฆฌ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€, NVIDIA๊ฐ€ R&D์— ์ด๋งŒํผ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ ์ด๋“ค์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ต๊ณ , ์ด๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ง€์ถœํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‹ ์„ฑ์žฅ ๋™๋ ฅ ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ๋“ค์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ํˆฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์งˆ์ง€ ๊ฐ์„ ์žก์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
Colette Kress

So remember, we have a universal architecture, every single version that we bring to market. What that means is our architectures can be used for data center, can be used for gaming, can be used for our professional visualization workstations. The same thing in terms of all that are building out our compute and building out our designs, status quo. Now we're just going industry-specific. So we do have some additional investment there. But again, not our largest piece of it. We don't have to go there because we have been a unified architecture together. Joseph Moore

Great. So I suspect you've had some large investor meetings today and recently.
์ฝœ๋ › ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค

๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ์‹œ์žฅ์— ์ถœ์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฒ„์ „์— ๋ฒ”์šฉ ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋Š” ์ €ํฌ ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ์— ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ฒŒ์ด๋ฐ์— ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์ „๋ฌธ ์‹œ๊ฐํ™” ์›Œํฌ์Šคํ…Œ์ด์…˜์—๋„ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ์˜ ์ปดํ“จํŒ…์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์„ค๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ํ˜„์ƒ ์œ ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์ €ํฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ์‚ฐ์—…๋ณ„๋กœ ํŠนํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€์ ์ธ ํˆฌ์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋Š” ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๋ฉด, ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ €ํฌ์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ํ†ตํ•ฉ ์•„ํ‚คํ…์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

์กฐ์…‰ ๋ฌด์–ด

์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜๊ณผ ์ตœ๊ทผ์— ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ํˆฌ์ž์ž ๋ฏธํŒ…๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€์…จ์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
Can you just talk to the final question, maybe just catch all, are there concerns that people have that you think are -- that they shouldn't have? Are there things that people should understand about what NVIDIA is doing in 2025 that maybe people have misconceptions about? Colette Kress

Yeah. I'd say the largest statement that we constantly look at is, are we done? Are we at the peak? Are we at the peak of what we're going to see at AI?
๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ํฌ๊ด„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์•˜์„ ๋•Œ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ ค ์ค‘์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? 2025๋…„ NVIDIA๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์˜คํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?

์ฝœ๋ ˆํŠธ ํฌ๋ ˆ์Šค:

๋„ค. ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งˆ์ฃผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€ "์ด์ œ ๋์ธ๊ฐ€์š”? ์ •์ ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”? AI์—์„œ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ •์ ์— ๋„๋‹ฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?"๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
And I think the vision that we see and the vision that we know, knowing that the installed base of general-purpose computing needs to be transformed to accelerated computing, A, just to manage the significant amount of data, but also to deal with the needs for AI and what AI will be for us in the next decade. So there is $1 trillion of an installed base. There's more than $1 trillion in terms of focus, in terms of AI. So is this it? Absolutely not. Is there still growth coming and in front of us? Absolutely.๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋น„์ „, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋น„์ „์€ ๋ฒ”์šฉ ์ปดํ“จํŒ…์˜ ๊ธฐ์กด ์„ค์น˜ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์ด ๊ฐ€์† ์ปดํ“จํŒ…์œผ๋กœ ์ „ํ™˜๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ์งธ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ง‰๋Œ€ํ•œ ์–‘์˜ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์ด๊ณ , ๋‘˜์งธ๋กœ๋Š” AI์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋‹ˆ์ฆˆ์™€ ํ–ฅํ›„ 10๋…„๊ฐ„ AI๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ๋ ์ง€์— ๋Œ€์‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด์„œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 1์กฐ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ์„ค์น˜ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. AI ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด 1์กฐ ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์ด์ƒ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ „๋ถ€์ผ๊นŒ์š”? ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์„ฑ์žฅ์ด ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์•ž์— ๋†“์—ฌ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”? ์ ˆ๋Œ€์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
So as far as we see every time that we may be here at stage, every time that we may be here at GTC, we're going to show you again more opportunities of the advancement of AI and how it will be infused in our everyday lives going forward. Joseph Moore

Great. That's a great place to wrap up. Thank you so much.
์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋กœ๋Š” ์ €ํฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด ๋ฌด๋Œ€์— ์„ค ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค, GTC์— ์ฐธ์„ํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค, AI์˜ ๋ฐœ์ „๊ณผ ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ผ์ƒ์ƒํ™œ์— AI๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์Šค๋ฉฐ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋“ค์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ป˜ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

Joseph Moore

์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ด๋„ค์š”. ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

๐Ÿ“Œ ์š”์•ฝ

Here's a summary of the key points from the earnings call transcript in Korean:

โ€ข ์‹ค์  ๋ฐ ์„ฑ์žฅ
- Q4 ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ์ „๋ถ„๊ธฐ ๋Œ€๋น„ 18% ์„ฑ์žฅ, Hopper์™€ Blackwell ์ œํ’ˆ์ด ์ฃผ๋„
- Blackwell ์ œํ’ˆ์˜ Q4 ๋งค์ถœ์ด 110์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ธฐ๋ก
- ์†Œํ”„ํŠธ์›จ์–ด/์„œ๋น„์Šค ๋ถ€๋ฌธ์˜ ์—ฐ๊ฐ„ ๋งค์ถœ์ด ์•ฝ 20์–ต ๋‹ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋กœ ์„ฑ์žฅ ์ค‘

โ€ข ๊ธฐ์ˆ  ๋ฐ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ „๋žต
- ์‚ฌ์ „ํ•™์Šต(pre-training)๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›„์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ(post-training)์™€ ๋ชจ๋ธ ์กฐ์ •์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ปดํ“จํŒ… ํŒŒ์›Œ ํ•„์š”
- Blackwell Ultra ๋“ฑ ์‹ ์ œํ’ˆ ์ถœ์‹œ ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ฉฐ, ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ์„ผํ„ฐ ๊ทœ๋ชจ์˜ ์ธํ”„๋ผ ๊ตฌ์ถ•์— ์ดˆ์ 
- ์ปค์Šคํ…€ ์‹ค๋ฆฌ์ฝ˜ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ๋†’์€ ์‹œ์žฅ ์ ์œ ์œจ ์œ ์ง€ ์ค‘

โ€ข ๋ฆฌ์Šคํฌ ์š”์ธ
- ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์˜ AI ํ™•์‚ฐ ๊ทœ์ œ๊ฐ€ 5์›”๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œํ–‰ ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋‚˜ ์ •๋ถ€์™€ ํ˜‘์˜ ์ค‘
- ์ค‘๊ตญํ–ฅ H20 ์ œํ’ˆ์€ ์ˆ˜์ถœํ†ต์ œ ๊ทœ์ • ๋‚ด์—์„œ ์ง€์† ๊ณต๊ธ‰ ์˜ˆ์ •
- ๊ณต๊ธ‰๋ง ์ด์Šˆ๋กœ ์ธํ•œ ์ผ์‹œ์  ๋งˆ์ง„ ์••๋ฐ•์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋‚˜, ํ•˜๋ฐ˜๊ธฐ์—๋Š” mid-70% ์ˆ˜์ค€ ํšŒ๋ณต ์ „๋ง

โ€ข ์žฅ๊ธฐ ์ „๋ง
- AI ์‹œ์žฅ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์ดˆ๊ธฐ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์ด๋ฉฐ, ๊ธฐ์กด ์ปดํ“จํŒ…์˜ ๊ฐ€์† ์ปดํ“จํŒ…์œผ๋กœ์˜ ์ „ํ™˜์ด ์ง€์†๋  ๊ฒƒ
- ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์  AI์™€ ๋กœ๋ด‡๊ณตํ•™ ๋ถ„์•ผ์—์„œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์„ฑ์žฅ